By Ed Komarek
7/12/09
Kind and Disseminate Favorably
My blog: http://exopolitics.blogspot.com/
I had a marathon dub discourse next to Ray Stanford that lasted a little eight hours the director personality of a day. Ray is now seventy one go old and had a gloomy self attack guaranteed time ago. As far as I know offer is nonentity in the world who has perfect as a lot of the strenuous science on UFOs as has Ray. His all-time work of capturing UFOs on film and next to specialist instruments is unprecedented. Limit of us that benefit from been in the UFOET area for awhile know of guaranteed of Ray's elapsed work a as of which is on the Internet. http://www.nicap.org/madar/psi-sympap80.htm and http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/discoveries/2008-01-12-dinotracker N.htm?csp=DailyBriefing
In this craving discourse, Ray got me up to speed and expressed to me that he has continued this work mellifluously and out of the population eye. He explained to me in multifaceted detail everything of his sizeable mass of denouement specialist evidence, not isolated as to the existence of extraterrestrial spacecraft and occupants, but precise specialist evidence as to the character of the craft and the propulsion systems attracted. He tells me he has extremity up photos of occupants in crafts that benefit from never been complete population. He has existing to rapid me on this evidence if I can coerce it to Washington DC where he now lives.
Ray says he has briefed mass high weight scientists over his all-time attracted in each classified and unclassified research in plasma dynamics and electromagnetic propulsion systems and they benefit from been astonished at the strenuous evidence he has accumulated. He discussed this all next to me in multifaceted detail elastic names, dates, seats and names. He believes and I secure that offer is nonentity in the population area office somewhere that has as a lot strenuous evidence and precise specialist vision and friendship as he has of weird transmitter objects or AAOs, as Ray prefers to nickname what he has been tracking and how they push.
Ray's experiences next to the UFO/ET community benefit from been unwelcome to him to a degree from the time when the community is so infiltrated by the intelligence community and that a believe of "researchers" work complete or expansively for the CIA and other intelligence organizations. He ordinary next to me his very precise experiences next to reputable relations in FUFOR and guaranteed other UFO organizations.
Ray and I acclaim that these organizations on the surface impend to be supporting locked away specialist investigation of UFOs but in fact are in commission surreptitiously to do everything they can to misguide UFO studies given away from strenuous data monitoring (next to instruments such as album gravimeters, album magnetometers, high-resolution cameras, spectrographic cameras, etc.).
We each acclaim subject UFO/ET organizations are with intent diverting population and specialist concentration clothed in beneath fruitful avenues such as trace-case studies and fallacious accounts provided by civilian investigators or by government releases. Ray and I each secure offer is very as strenuous locked away specialist research leaving on in the UFO community, in a sizeable personality from the time when of the intelligence community invasion and the things of counterintelligence operations. This remarks document provides evidence that the CIA has add up control in intelligence operate and counterintelligence linking the UFO/ET handle.
http://www.majesticdocuments.com/pdf/authority-dci-clarified-S1-00.pdf
Ray afterward ordinary next to me his experiences next to contactees such as George Adamski when he was a natural man. At the time he understood in the stories of Adamski and misinterpreted his premature UFO encounters in a contactee context. He was refuse to eat set pay off when Adamski confined in him the details of how he was hoaxing UFO photos and the fact that he had never had nimble contact next to alien craft or next to their occupants. Such experiences next to Adamski and next to other "contactees" similar to Dan Fry and George Van Tassel, Ray says, skilled him to be very suspicious of contactee claims.
Ray has uttered out about each CIA invasion clothed in UFO research and hoaxing by excel contactee information so it's manageable that he is not very featuring in next to mass in the UFO/ET community subject. It's exciting that in my elapsed go I too identified and pull your leg out opposed mass of these exact leaders for vertical counter-intelligence operations opposed the UFO community and the population at sizeable.
Ray told me in detail his identifiable conversations and means of communication next to these leaders. Ray thought, "One very well honored school when confronted steady confessed to slack 20,000 from a well distinct apparent hoaxer and also disobediently announced that he would promptly be productive a lot advanced finances by the apparent hoaxer to foundation his claims, photos, and videos, and that it was none of Ray's business."
(Several may make up Ray a bit strenuous in guaranteed of his accusations but that seems to be from the time when he has seen so a lot of it and we are selling at his time next to stern surface visage. Ray says he behind asked Wendelle Stevens why he was publishing perceptible that he knew was hoaxed. Wendelle openly replied, "State is no finances in revealing hoaxes.") :-)
Regardless of what this honored Hollow place Mouthful investigator's bona fide intentions were, I see at least a conception of a locked away seek prosecution of prying and specialist sovereignty concern all but the validity of the investigation and the investigator's specify and motives in pursuing that investigation under such task. I hope a resilient explanation is affable from this school, meanwhile I wish move up to the bleachers for the show. :-)
(Readers must jam in hub that offer is a lot advanced leaving on impart than meets the eye and that this is isolated one stingy tip of a very sizeable usually CIA intelligence iceberg in which I am jerking a few intelligence operative's fetters and they know who they are. Several UFO investigators must be questioned cagily if they benefit from customarily been attracted in CIA UFO/ET counterintelligence operations in the UFO/ET area in familiar and specifically opposed other true UFO investigators and researchers. My presume is that the suppress may be boisterous. :-) )
Ray afterward mentioned a well distinct and honored so called "specialist school" next to CIA contacts whose history goes give preferentiality to to the era of NICAP, when pressured by diverse participant at a 1987 FUFOR seminar, about approve of for the joint MUFON-FUFOR 1987 international chitchat at American University admitted that a sum of over 100,000 came from a distinct CIA go in front venture in Alexandria, Virginia. Ray steady named the affair and told how he had verified that inform on and the corporation's CIA connection by a Ph.D. who the affair had attempted to secure. This was afterward seasoned by a retired tender of the NSA, and by others who are silent next to this CIA go in front affair.
I benefit from realized over the go how wholly stirring the chaos is in the UFO/ET community being infiltrated to this constituent, being betrayed and sold out by its own trusted leaders who are being bought and productive for by the CIA-MJ 12. (Ray is suspicious about the leaked MJ 12 documents, and refuses to get sidetracked by population wits on such matters.) http://www.majesticdocuments.com/
In the case of invasion clothed in UFO skeptics and UFO/ET investigators groups, I acclaim that each sides are being surreptitiously manipulated to get in touch with a reliable state of worry and prosecution taking part in the add up community. One shutters to make up that this exact prepare of thing is leaving on not plaza in the UFO community but next to the media, leisure activity sweat, specialist community and national governments. MJ 12 and the honored scientist Menzel started acute and vertical counterintelligence operations in the specialist community to trick scientists about UFO in well developed as evidenced by this MJ 12 letter.
http://www.majesticdocuments.com/pdf/hillenkoetter-menzel sept1963.pdf
Intrinsically all this has gone Ray very disenchanted next to the UFO community, but he does jam up next to developments on the Internet. He very firmly believes that the best manage for him is to mellifluously parade his evidence complete to the specialist community by means of obstinate specialist protocols. If he meet to, he possibly will invite commotion next to CIA-MJ 12 intelligence networks in UFO community that benefit from worked to protection his specialist work over his all-time.
Ray seems to benefit from a photographic sorority and he can rattle off names, dates, seats and precise conversations plaza as well as he can testify the details of UFO deeds he has recorded next to his instrumentation. In the case of Adamski and Uri Geller he was able to steady able to mimic their voices. Ray precise to me guaranteed very staggering experiences he had next to Uri Geller, that benefit from been published in separate publications. Uri and one of his managers tried to talk Ray clothed in in commission for him from the time when Uri's powers were emotionally stretched out by guaranteed helpful of intuitive chemistry amongst the two. Ray refused, "maxim he had advanced important work to do than plaza leaving all over the world next to Uri, in commission as a "intuitive weapon store".
(Statement family connections not closely interrelated next to Ray are sometimes prone to belittle Ray's specialist work from the time when of his dawn parley of his mass strange contextual intuitive experiences over his staggering all-time. This is an area that I hope to announce in advanced articles. I benefit from had an dissipation 4 hour discourse discussing these intuitive experiences as this article was being shortened by Ray.
It is and wish be everyday for the uninformed or marginally discerning to disband these experiences as filthy or foolish but I go down with them mesmerizing in fleshing out the eminence of the contextual reality being conscious. This is not plaza about foolish and bolts craft and occupants but a lot advanced. I make up Ray accurately feels his specialist work must stand unrestricted of his identifiable experiences and on their own specialist help regardless of his mass flagrant identifiable all-time experiences.
The limit of an individual's specialist work from identifiable nibble and postulation is obstinate specialist protocol. Advocating the mixing a scientist's identifiable nibble and coaching next to that person's specialist work to disrepute the specialist work is the stage in a very unscientific, diving and deceitful create.)
It was out from the craving discourse that Ray's many-decades work in obtaining UFO strenuous data unobjectionable to distinctive science, and his exercise to parade it to the specialist community, benefit from not been liked by one or two nation and groups that we regular benefit from outer and/or parade contacts to the intelligence community. He was told in 1975 (at the Refuge Smith UFO conference) by Phil Klass, that he, Ray, was the isolated participant (in performance next to Ray's venture) be in the helpful of work (next to instrumented UFO hard-data monitoring) that possibly will potentially shift him to lifeless his (Klass's) bets that no analytically unobjectionable evidence of alien technology visiting earth would customarily be obtained.
Ray thinks he can withstand in bringing the instrument-recorded evidence cool over a quantity of decades to the specialist community and that it possibly will stick the specialist on the verge of to nimble UFO studies clothed in distinctive science. On the other hand Ray says guaranteed of his evidence (applicable to UFO intelligences and their sufficient enormity to generosity) is very troublesome and that he has locked away questions about its disclosure. He and I argued give preferentiality to and forth over the points pro and con for disclosure fiercely at person become old in the dub discourse.
A great deal of Ray's identifiable experiences wish, by his own view, isolated be published after his fatal accident and I am sure that what he has to say is leaving to coerce for guaranteed very exciting and touchy construal. Meanwhile he hopes to parade his propulsion-diagnostic, instrument-recorded evidence as promptly as is effective in a sensibly specialist create to the specialist community. I for one hope he is able to do this and he must benefit from the foundation of associates of us who completely work for and make sure the adjunct for disclosure. I hope my links and contacts at OM wish dawn a channel of dialogue next to Ray and foundation him any way sufficient.
http://www.openmindsforum.com/
Ray Stanford has begun to put guaranteed of his data up on the Internet at the far-reaching site for associates who are questioning in real specialist UFO science.
http://ourstrangeplanet.com/index.php?option=com content&task=view&id=454&Itemid=60
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